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Gohan > Goku BoG
Topic Started: Apr 3 2015, 11:40 AM (2,635 Views)
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That's straight from the dub.
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The dub is what made me think Goku wasn't stronger than Gohan.
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Apr 4 2015, 03:38 AM
The dub is what made me think Goku wasn't stronger than Gohan.
I know and remember you saying that a while ago, thus me taking caps of the extended cut and giving you the text
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I misunderstood. When you said "caps", I thought of "subs".
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Apr 4 2015, 04:11 AM
I misunderstood. When you said "caps", I thought of "subs".
No my bad, I remember pyrus saying the dub confused him a bit. So I turned in close captioning on the extended cut and just took those words trying to figure out where. I can probably turn closed captioning on tomorrow and take pictures of the scenes and the words.

I just am not sure where the dub itself ventures away from Whis > Beerus > Goku > Vegeta > Gohan > Gotenks > Buu > Piccolo > 18 > Krillin > Tien > others

In fact it is kinda where the anime ended in itself in the Buu arc from the time Vegetto split apart as well as the Tarble special which they've made canon.
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Context: Goku wants to let everyone on earth know about Beerus
Kaio: "I've already told Vegeta. He's the one most likely to step over the line, after all."


I find it odd that when the group engages him, Beerus KO's 18 and Piccolo, but Tenshinhan manages to stay conscious, and Boo is back to his feet in moments.

Good Boo lasts longer than Gohan, at least in the sense that Beerus humors him by dodging his punches for a couple seconds.

Context: after Beerus beats Vegeta
Krillin: "He beat Vegeta in the blink of an eye!"

Beerus: "Between him and Vegeta, they really might become my arch-rivals before too long, huh?"

Vegeta: "J-Just that, at that time, I definitely think I surpassed you!"
Goku: "Yeah, you sure did."
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Well he doesn't hit Tien. He doesn't hit Buu either until he decided to bang his head into Gohan. Tien was just caught and flipped out the way whereas he made contact with piccolo in pressure points and elbowed/chopped 18 in the neck


Goku - gets plucked, his fist stepped on, and then chopped for the ko.

Buu - gets blown away like a gnat in a pool, and then banged into Gohan, then hit

Gohan - gets grabbed out the full Nelson , banged into Buu, and super kicked

18 gets chopped in the back of the head

Piccolo takes two pressure point hits with chop sticks

Tien gets tossed aside after his fist is caught

Gotenks gets spanked out of ssj and fusion for his mouth

Vegeta outright is the only one to even block or deflect a blow from Beerus in their initial encounters, and he does it three or four times before he takes a series of punches and kicks, which in the extende version are prolonged as they cut to Whis eating while he's still taking the punishment (ala kid Buu in the anime)
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He went on easy on Tenshinhan on account of how weak he is. Maybe he strung Boo along because of their pudding interaction. He wanted to punish Boo a bit more.
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Vegeta was also surprise after Boo punched him although he knew that Boo is Ssjin3 tier.
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ssj2 vegeta rage >ssj3 goku BoG >ssj2 vegeta BoG >gohan( drunk gohan)>buu (good buu)

And it makes sense

Check this



Buu arc ssj3 goku = 100
ssj2 goku = 25
ssj2 vegeta = 25
Good buu = 40


BoG ssj3 goku = 500
ssj2 vegeta rage = 1000
ssj2 vegeta = 100
Good Buu = 40
Drunk Gohan = 80

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Apr 3 2015, 09:58 PM
Gohan isn't Ultimate in this movie, that's why he's not Ultimate in Revival of F.

When he wonders whether he can still turn Super Saiyan (in F), he's referencing the time he attacked Beerus; he tried and failed to turn Super Saiyan.

It explains what Clearin brought up and it explains why Vegeta is shocked when Beerus defeats Gotenks. Hell, it even explains why Gotenks didn't use SSJ3.

SSJ Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku > SSJ2 Vegeta > Base Gohan.
Lol, but that would mean Base Gohan > SSj3 Goku, actually.

Gohan was pwned much less horribly by Beerus than SSj3 Goku was.

So it would appear that the movie contradicts itself on that.
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